Sarah Palin is Lying about Barack Obama and Bill Ayers — But Why?

Yesterday, Sarah Palin gave a speech in which she decided, perhaps of her own volition, to lie about Barack Obama.  Yet, for some bizarre reason she screwed herself over by citing the source (i.e. The New York Times) on which her lie was based.

Thus she made it easy for even an intelligent child to compare the lie she told with what The New York Times actually published.  And I think any fair comparison between her lie and the Times article reveals Palin to be a foolish liar.

First, here’s what Palin said in her speech, which I transcribed from a video:

“I was reading today a copy of The New York Times.  And I was really interested to read in there about Barack Obama’s friends from Chicago.  It turns out one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times, was a domestic terrorist, and part of the group — part of the group that, quote, launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the US Capitol.  Man!  These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes.  Remember that’s what Joe Biden said.”

“Now, this is not a man who sees America as you and I see America.  We see America as a force for good in this world.  We see an America of exceptionalism.  Our opponent is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country.”

The former domestic terrorist Palin refers to is Bill Ayers, who was long ago a member of the Weather Underground, and who currently lives in the same middle class Chicago neighborhood as Barack Obama.

In her speech, Palin does everything she can to paint Obama and Ayers as close to each other.  But that happens not to be the case.  The New York Times article makes it very clear Obama and Ayers have only a chance relationship with one another:

“At a tumultuous meeting of anti-Vietnam War militants at the Chicago Coliseum in 1969, Bill Ayers helped found the radical Weathermen, launching a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and United States Capitol.”

“Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors.”

And:

“…the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called ‘somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'”

So Palin is blatantly — and I think viciously — lying when she says Obama and Ayers are “pals”.  What makes her lying especially bizarre is she cites her source — which allows anyone to easily discover for themselves that she is lying.  That makes her not just a liar, but a foolish liar.

Yet, why is she lying in the first place?  Is she merely a compulsive or pathological liar?  Or are there strategic reasons for her deceptions?

I would suggest Palin is lying for at least three entwined reasons, each having to do with flaws in her ticket.  First, the ticket she’s running on supports policies that are for the most part indistinguishable from the failed policies of the Bush / Cheney Administration.  Consequently, neither she nor John McCain can realistically run on the strength of their policies without trapping themselves.  Without that option, however, what do they have left to run on?

I don’t think Palin and McCain any longer have the option of running on the strength of their characters.  Both have demonstrated themselves to be very flawed people, and perhaps even inferior to their opponents.

Yet, if you cannot run on the strength either of your policies or your character, you are left with only one option — attack your opponent, demonize him, and hope you frighten enough voters away from him to you.

Consequently, they are trying to make Obama’s character the issue in the race.  Unfortunately, Obama has a pretty solid and respectable character, so their desire to make his character the issue requires them to lie about him.

And that I think is why Sarah Palin and John McCain will tell one lie after another about Barack Obama until election day.

But what do you think?

79 thoughts on “Sarah Palin is Lying about Barack Obama and Bill Ayers — But Why?

  1. Hi Jonolan! First off, I don’t think there is much of a link between Obama and Ayers — unless you are privy to information the New York Times is not. Second, I don’t think McCain or Palin are any longer in a position to convince enough people that they are of better character than Obama and Biden. And that second point, I suspect, is the real issue.

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  2. She is lying because, sadly, there is a percentage of voters who will believe what she says simply because she said it. Its the same with McCain. These are the same people who believe every anti -Obama email they receive. It would not ever enter their minds to research these claims for themselves. Palin And McCain are counting on them believing them simply because she mentioned her source. It doesn’t matter to these followers what that source says. Hopefully the undecideds are more intelligent than this.

    It scares me how many are blind followers. I witnessed one of them while sitting in a doctor’s office last week. Good Morning America was on and they were discussing the VP debate. This person said loudly in the waiting room that someone needed ro change the channel to FOX News so we could get the truth. Then when they showed a clip of Obama he said, ‘oh yeah, we believe the muslim.’ His wife turned to the rest of us and said ‘the muslims are trying to take over the U.S. and we can’t let their leader win the presidency. She looked around like she expected the rest of us to agree. The woman next to me stood up and calmly walked over to the two of them and said, ” Do not assume that intelligent people believe the deception that you are buying into. I am a Repulican, I will vote for Obama because McCain scares the hell out of me. I would appreciate it if you would take your discussion elsewhere and allow the rest of us who aren’t feeling well a little peace.’ The receptionist then got up to change the channel….to CNN. I loved it!

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  3. @ Safaiman: Welcome to the blog! The key point is that Palin lied about the content of the New York Times article she read Saturday morning. Proving that fact does not require one to cite more than the Times and her speech.

    @ Cindy: Welcome the blog! Beautiful story! Thanks for sharing that! I agree that a large number of the electorate are closed-minded. Some people would vote for a Democrat no matter who ran, and some people would vote for a Republican no matter who ran. I guess some people are just not comfortable making decisions for themselves.

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  4. Obama & Ayers
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html

    More Obama & Ayers
    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/obama-ayers-the-woods-fund-lugenia-burns-hope-center-and-tucc/

    And more Obama & Ayers
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=57231

    And yet more Obama & Ayers – with financial connections back to ACORN and Wright
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obama_and_the_woods_fund_of_ch.html

    It’s up to the voters to decide if Obama’s long term business relationship with a known terrorist and traitor of the 1960s if of any importance, but it’s a ridiculous attempt on the part of his MSM shills to downplay the relationship.

    For myself – once a terrorist and a traitor, always a terrorist and a traitor. I’m not forgiving though. Maybe others are more so and I can’t quite bring myself to categorically fault them for such charity.

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  5. NYTimes lies about the relationship. How come Obama is a the head of the organization launched by Ayer by “a chance” meeting.
    Guys please beware whom you are voting for.
    Obama friend Rezko got a 3.5million dollar loan from an Iraqi living in UK prior to Obama buying his home.
    His chief advisor Valerie Jarrett is born in Iran.
    His friends are in Pakistan who lead the internet campaign. He visited them in 1981 for 4 weeks when he was young muslim.
    I am sorry that people are not getting is wrong relationships. He will do anything to come to power or stay in power.
    It is scary that media is masking these information.
    I am democrat but I will not vote for Obama. He has Shady deals and relationship.

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  6. @ Sandis: Hi there! And welcome! Do you have links to any reputable sources for your claims?

    @ Chris: Welcome to the blog! Do you have any links to reputable sources for your claims?

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  7. There is a definite connection between Barack and Ayers. barack stated he was a passing contact on some board he was part of but if that is the case WHY is it Ayers hosted Baracks Initial party for him announcing he was running for president? Those are facts. No matter how she words it or how you spin it he is connected to a man to THIS day thinks he did the right thing AND not enough and was planning to kill innocent men,women and children at a dance party at the base. His wife stated at a rally just after the Manson murders and I quote “Can you dig it? Manson killed these pigs and ate in the same room and THEN stabbed the bodies with a fork in the stomach. So before you say she lies you should look into whom your candidate is letting him represent. Now add in that whacked catholic priest, His reverend, Tony Resco and ACORN, fannie may/freddie mac money laundering and you start to see a pattern.

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  8. Look, Ayers hand picked Obama out of thousands of more qualified candidates to head up the Annenberg Challenge and Obama served with Ayers on its board for years. Obama launched his political career in Ayers’ home. You can try to parse the meaning of the word “pals” until the end of time and those facts remain. Most Americans would be more likely to shun an unrepentant terrorist than work with him and that is exactly what Obama has done worked and partnered with an unreppentant terrorists.

    Not that it should be a surprise. Obama was also close associates with the criminal Tony Rezko. Obama built his street creds by swimming in Jeremiah Wright’s bile for 20 years. Obama’s past associates are a parade of vile leftist characters. Now that he is running for president in a center/right nation, he is running from those associations. The reality is that Obama chose anti-American associates when it served him and now he is running away from them not that they have gone from his asset to liability columns.

    You can deny this, you can parse words, you can quote media in the tank for Obama until you are blue in the face but facts are facts.

    We aren’t going to let this go. If Obama loses for these associations, great! If he manages to win in spite of them we are going to hammer him, attack him and weaken his presidency every damned day he is in office. We will not rest.

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  9. @ Bill: Welcome the blog. You seem to be asserting many claims that I’ve not seen any foundation for. Could you please provide links to your sources?

    @ RD Walker: Welcome to the blog. If facts are facts as you say, then surely you wouldn’t mind providing links to the sources you’re relying on.

    @ Vigilante: Thanks for the poetry!

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  10. What sources? That Ayers chose Obama to chair the Annenberg Challenge? It isn’t in dispute. That Obama launched his first political campaign in Ayers’ home? It isn’t in dispute. These are well established facts and there are thousands of sources available to confirm them. If you can manage to run a blog, you can find well reported facts such as these. They aren’t even controversial.

    All the sudden we are all talking about how close Ayers and Obama were. Even if they weren’t soul mates – I have no doubt that Ayers, and Wright for that matter, are more radical than Obama – nevertheless he chose to associate with them. He listened to them and he partnered with them. That is important. Obama associated with two cretins most Americans would cross the street to avoid even greeting. That is relevant and we are not going to stop telling Americans about it.

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  11. Well, RD, go ahead and tell all the Americans you want to tell about it. But I suspect you don’t have much in the way of solid evidence showing a close association between Obama and Ayers or you would produce it this morning, would you not?

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  12. Great post.

    McCain/Palin current slogan is ‘Country First’ – how about truth first?

    The McCain campaign is frantic and desperate – they are giving in to their lowest self.

    Obama supporters have to be vocal and vigilant and talk to independents and tell independents for ridiculous these claims are. Obama supporters have to take on some responsibility and actively engage with independents.

    Obama is an honorable person who treats his family and wife with respect. If McCain cheated on his first wife and called his current wife a ‘cu*t in public how disrespectful will he be to Americans in general?

    If Palin can go on national TV and ignore the rules of ‘debating’ that she agreed to, how can we trust McCain to keep any promises he makes now?

    Palin considers herself to be a ‘Christian’ but she lies like a heathen. How can true Christians and Evangelicals tolerate that? Palin isn’t a true believer, the bible says in Exodus 20:16 ‘Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.’
    We all know what it means to be a false witness – it means to lie or misrepresent some factual thing. Proverbs 21:28 says ‘A false witness shall perish’.

    What does the Evangelical base thinks about that and how can they continue to support McCain and his campaigns with all its lies? Does Evangelicals honor God or McCain? I really would like to know.

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  13. Paul,

    Just remember that those links are meant to document the connection between Obama and Ayers only. There’s plenty of vitriol on some of those sites about what the fund led by Ayers and with Obama did, but those details would require separate research from less bias sources.

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  14. Hi Paulette! Welcome to the blog! Thank you for your kind words about the post. I think you have done a good job pointing out some of Obama’s strengths of character.

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  15. your all wrong. Sarah Palin is a very smart women. And this economic sitsuation! Gosh shit happens, the economy will go down then it will go up it always does. Everyone changes something for it to go up. It’s not gonna die!

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  16. Palin is grasping at an attempt to smear Obama. Palin and McCain have a very flawed message and they are losing. I expect the negatives from Palin and McCain to increase but most are very tired of it.

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  17. @ Mark: Welcome to the blog! I don’t doubt Sarah Palin is smart about some things. Most of us are smart about some things. I just think she was foolish Saturday when she tried to closely link Ayers and Obama.

    As for the economy, it’s my understanding we are headed into a recession.

    @ Richard Brisco: Welcome to the blog! I completely agree with your assessment the negatives will increase. I think the McCain / Palin camp now see that as their best hope of winning the election.

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  18. “Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama’s first run for office…” If they did not have a relationship why would Mr. Ayers host a fund raising event for a person who at that time had no reputation in the political world? This is a question even a smart child might ask.

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  19. Hi Kenn: Welcome to the blog! I think politics makes strange bedfellows, don’t you? Besides which, hosting one fund raising event for a politician does not necessary mean you’re all that close to him or her.

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  20. Paul: “What makes her lying especially bizarre is she cites her source — which allows anyone to easily discover for themselves that she is lying. That makes her not just a liar, but a foolish liar.”

    That depends – heavily – on the wisdom level of the people she’s lying to. Lying and then citing a reliable source for confirmation has become a standard tactic these days. Lots of manifold-forwarded e-hoaxes these days include the claim “I checked it out on Snopes and it’s true!” – so many that it’s become a cliché, and (to the more discerning reader) a red flag of bogusness. The hoaxer is counting on the reader to accept that claim and not bother to check it out on Snopes him/herself.

    Same dynamic here.

    RD Walker: “Most Americans would be more likely to shun an unrepentant terrorist …”

    Such as Samuel Adams, for example.

    Jonolan: “once a terrorist and a traitor, always a terrorist and a traitor. I’m not forgiving though.”

    Being unwilling to forgive is like like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.

    – M. \”/

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  21. Hi Meowlin! Thanks for explaining that dynamic to me. It makes sense. I had assumed people would check out the source and compare it to her words. But I see where she’s coming from now.

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  22. Hello, I think what McCain campaign is doing is totally fair. Economy is a main issue these days a nd people think Obama has better plan which it is but once this problem of economy is solved there are still other issues behind it.

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  23. Leftist law professor Steve Diamond has done tons of investigating into Ayers and Obama, as well as allied characters like ex-Maoist Mike Klonsky. The apologias for Ayers/Obama, “just a guy I know in the neigborhood, ” are disingenuous. Obama, is a safe centrist, what the radical New Left of the 60’s called a corporate liberal, but, his extensive relationship w/Ayers early in his career on the Annenberg Challenge, Woods Fund boards do raise serious questions about his judgement and also the future education policy wonkery of an Obama admin. “How did Ayers Make Obama Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge?, ” http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/10/where-are-we-now-update-on-ayersobama.html The Authoritarian Radicals: Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge

    Stephen F. Diamond
    Santa Clara University – School of Law
    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1262085

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  24. MY GOD What planet do some of you live on? The right wing delusion is beyond comprehension. To think that people actually believe these lies is terribly sad for America.

    The party of family and religious values once again drinks from the gutter and spits out the slime they’ve been told.

    The real problem we have is that anyone would do things like this to win an election. Karl Rove used to close the Oval office door and do his little superior dance for Bush every time one of the GOP dirty tricks got picked up by the press.

    His favorite name for the BASE was the Wingnuts—“God bless the wingnuts” Karl would yell while doing his little disco dance.

    This is the same mentality that burned humans alive for being witches.

    In 2008, we can look back and say that was crazy. What were the Puritans thinking? How could so many people have been so mislead? What kind of person would instigate such evil?

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  25. I am amazed that Obama or Biden are not telling the world about McCain and Keating!! While Obama has no relation to Ayers, McCain was reprimanded by the Senate Ethics committee for his ties with Keating and for using ‘poor judgement’.

    If you do not know about McCain and Keating I suggest you do some reading on the subject. This seriously needs to be discussed. GW Bush used the Keating scandal to beat McCain in the 2000 primaries, which caused McCain to hate Bush. Now McCain has ‘learned his lesson’ and is using similar tactics against Obama. I think it is time for Obama to start talking about Keating.

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  26. @ Amit: I suppose you could argue all is fair in love, war and politics. 😀

    @ Michael: Welcome to the blog! Thanks for the links! I’ll check them out when I have time.

    @ Jeff: Welcome to the blog! Could you tell me your source for Karl Rove’s dance, please? Just curious. Also, let’s keep things as civil as possible. Honorable people can honorably disagree.

    @ PJs: Welcome to the blog! I’ve been wondering the same thing about the Keating Five issue. Good point!

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  27. The truth of the matter is that Ayers isn’t just some guy that lives in his neighborhood, etc.

    The point is that McCain or anyone with any basic decency would cut off ties from someone that did what he did and represents. That Obama dismissed him so trivially speaks directly to his character. Like McCain said in April, if McCain had as close a relationship with an abortion clinic bomber as Obama does with Ayers, you betcha his candidacy would’ve been over.

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  28. Palin is not Lying about barack obama,
    Just MSM refuse to report obama and Ayers, & Rezko CNN & Msnbc refuse to, report any negative issues about Obama, Both CNN and MSNBC , or on the obama campaign, just like Kieth Oberman & chris mathews

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  29. Hi Paul.

    Obama has worked with Ayers enough for their relationship to be deemed anything but trivial. Casual is probably a better word than close.

    But the point is, that, if i ever knew a KKK member, a child molester, a terrorist, etc. I would seek to destroy all ties with this person. We all want second chances for some people, but you have to take a hard stance sometimes and just say, no.

    Let’s just assume that Obama was right in saying that he never heard Wright’s incendiary sayings [right…]. Well once the pressure was on him, he threw Wright under the bus (despite previously avowing to not do so, as that would be akin to throwing the black community under the bus).

    So when Wright was exposed to be incendiary, Obama couldn’t back him anymore.

    And yet, when asked about his associations about Ayers, he dismissed Ayer’s previous activities as some acts commited when Obama was young.

    I could never dismiss what Hitler did in the past and work in the future with him if I could, but that’s just me.

    That’s what Palin is hitting on.

    BTW, I thank you Paul for allowing open discourse as opposed to one-sided partisanship in your discussion.

    – John

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  30. PS, technically, you’re right, Obama isn’t palling with the guy like his buddy [not that I know of (re: Hillary lol], nor is the guy a terrorist [he was one].

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  31. Mr. Obama’s relationship with Ayers is well documented in many sources. If this were something in dispute I could see asking for citing of these sources. As it is not, I don’t see a need to repeatedly deny the significance of the relationship, close or not. What scares ME is that the left is so ready to disregard the connection in order to elect Obama. And I am NOT saying McCain behaves or is any better.

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  32. Hello to all.

    Just want to say, this is my first time reading a blog and replying. What I find funny is most everyone thinks there is a big difference between the two parties. If anything there is a slight difference. If Kennedy were President today he would be considered a conservative by anyone standards. Everyone needs to look and world history and see the direction we are going. I was over in France this pass summer and made friends with a few people. One night we were out drinking a little to much wine. I ask them all, why do the French dislike us Americans so much. There answer shock me. They all pretty much said the same things. We hate that you have so much freedom. They have none. Look at there tax rate folks. They can retire at age 55. There tax rate is right around 70%. So run the numbers. We would have to work the first 9 months of the year to pay taxes, before we had any real money of our own. While is the one party believes they have to take care of everyone, even in some case wipe there butts for them. Why is the motto is to punish the achievers. Robin hood comes to mind. Why is my responsibility to help pay for someones house, or put gas in there car, or pay for there health care. What happen to personal responsibility. I have two daughters. Did we want more? Sure but could we at the time afford more, NO. So guess what we decided to do what was right, and stop with two.

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  33. jonolan says, “once a terrorist and a traitor, always a terrorist and a traitor. I’m not forgiving though.” It’s a good thing members of the United States House of Representatives, Democrats AND Republicans, are more forgiving than jonolan is, because they serve with a one-time “terrorist.” Bobby Rush was a founder of the Illinois Black Panthers. Today, he is a US congressman, having served in the US House of Representatives for the past 15 years. Does that mean the members of the US House “pal around” with terroists? I don’t think so. John McCain has been serving in the Senate with indicted Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, a fellow Republican. Does that make McCain a criminal by association? Or Palin, because they’re both Republicans from Alaska? By the way, today Ayers is an education professor. Doesn’t make him any less radical, but all he seems to be is someone who has crossed paths with Obama because he lives in Obama’s Chicago neighborhood of Hyde Park. I once served on a board with someone who filed bankruptcy. Does that make me a bad credit risk?

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  34. @ Paul IV: Welcome to the blog! Assuming the MSM is refusing to report the story, why do you suppose that’s so?

    @ John: Thank you for such a good post! I think you’ve made some very good points, and you’ve given me much to think about.

    @ Mike: My repeated requests for cites and links is so I or anyone else can evaluate how close the relationship between the two men is. I don’t dispute that some kind of relationship exists. But whether it is significant is another matter. I’m afraid I haven’t made that at all clear enough.

    @ Kevin: Welcome to the blog! Thank you for sharing that fascinating story. I’m unsure whether it has any bearing on the Ayers-Obama connection, but it is indeed interesting.

    @ Diane: Welcome to the blog! Thank you for such a good post! I think you make some very good points.

    @ Vishesh: Hi and welcome! I get the strong sense you are enjoying the spectacle!!! 😀 Good for you!!!

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  35. What Ayers did was unforgivable. That Obama associated with such a character isn’t a flaw in itself (we’ve worked with people before we knew they were strange), but that he dismisses what Ayers did because Obama was young, and therefore, the “man now” is all that “matters” is what is so outrageous.

    Speaking of which, the man now says “I feel we didn’t do enough.” ???

    Does John McCain dismiss Ted Stevens? Does John McCain have as close a relationship with Stevens as Ayers did with Obama?

    What did Stevens do exactly? He was a crony, corrupt, etc. but he didn’t seek to destroy America.

    Similarily, Obama sought funds for his wife’s hospital, where her salary soon skyrocketed. He sued Alice Palmer off the ballot on some dumb technicalities so that he could be sworn in to office. He got some money for a friend, a Garden to Nowhere if you will, that did not have his constituents at heart.

    What Obama has done is not ethical, but it’s not exactly treasonous. It’s a shame that much of Congress is of the same breed of cronyism.

    But!

    Again, being unethical and being unAmerican are worlds apart in terms of forgivability.

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  36. Folks, I just deleted two extremely rude comments from this thread. Please understand you are welcome to express your opinions in a civil manner, but you are not welcome to insult people. Do that on your own blog, if you must, but not here.

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  37. John says, “What did Stevens do exactly? He was a crony, corrupt, etc. but he didn’t seek to destroy America.

    Yeah, but . . . yeah, but . . . yeah, but . . . .

    Meanwhile, I found the following on the CNN Political Ticker site. Of course those who are swayed by slander (or besotted by bulls–it) won’t consider they might be incorrect (or misled) anyway.

    Fact Check: Is Obama ‘palling around with terrorists’?
    Posted: 09:00 AM ET

    Gov. Palin commented about Sen. Obama and William Ayers at a rally in Carson, California Saturday.
    The Statement: Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin said Saturday, October 4, that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is “someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”

    Watch: Is Obama a terrorist’s pal?

    Get the facts!

    The Facts: In making the charge at a fund-raising event in Englewood, Colorado, and a rally in Carson, California, Palin was referring at least in part to William Ayers, a 1960s radical. In both appearances, Palin cited a front-page article in Saturday’s New York Times detailing the working relationship between Obama and Ayers.

    In the 1960s, Ayers was a founding member of the radical Weather Underground group that carried out a string of bombings of federal buildings, including the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol, in protest against the Vietnam War. The now-defunct group was labeled a “domestic terrorist group” by the FBI, and Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn — also a Weather Underground member — spent 10 years as fugitives in the 1970s. Federal charges against them were dropped due to FBI misconduct in gathering evidence against them, and they resurfaced in 1980. Both Ayers and Dohrn ultimately became university professors in Chicago, with Ayers, 63, now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

    Obama’s Chicago home is in the same neighborhood where Ayers and Dohrn live. Beginning in 1995, Ayers and Obama worked with the non-profit Chicago Annenberg Challenge on a huge school improvement project. The Annenberg Challenge was for cities to compete for $50 million grants to improve public education. Ayers fought to bring the grant to Chicago, and Obama was recruited onto the board. Also from 1999 through 2001 both were board members on the Woods Fund, a charitable foundation that gave money to various causes, including the Trinity United Church that Obama attended and Northwestern University Law Schools’ Children and Family Justice Center, where Dohrn worked.

    CNN’s review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.

    Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told CNN that after meeting Obama through the Annenberg project, Ayers hosted a campaign event for him that same year when then-Illinois state Sen. Alice Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced the young community organizer as her chosen successor. LaBolt also said the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.

    The extent of Obama’s relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood … the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago — when I was 8 years old — somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense.”

    The New York Times article cited by Palin concluded that “the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers.” Other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have said that their reporting doesn’t support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.

    The McCain campaign did not respond Saturday to a request for elaboration on Palin’s use of the plural “terrorists.”

    Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now “palling around,” or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

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  38. This is the best they can do? No wonder they’re losing! This steaming pile of BS has been examined and tossed out as phony a long time ago- unlike McCain’s little problems: the Keating Five, McCain’s wife’s drug addiction and drug theft, her father’s jail time for illegal activity with his beer company, and his ties to Arizona mobsters. Then of course there’s Sarah Palin : her affair, the Troopergate scandal, her husband’s involvement in the Alaskan Independence Party and the whole “Who’s Trig’s mommy?” controversy. People who live in glass houses (or igloos) shouldn’t throw stones!

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  39. Like I said Diane, technically, Palin was incorrect.

    Obama isn’t palling with the guy like his buddy [not that I know of (re: Hillary lol], nor is the guy a terrorist [he was one, though to this day, he wishes he would have done more].

    What did CNN debunk exactly? Palin’s point was that she would cut off ties with someone as unAmerica as Ayers, but Obama merely dismisses his actions pettily because they were done when he was young.

    Team Maverick:

    “The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008

    Before anyone accuses me of slant and bias, yes I admit. However, I don’t flub facts. 🙂

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  40. TALK IS CHEAP … CHECK OBAMA’S RECORD !!!
    A candidate’s track record, and associations are always a legitimate issue when running for President. Let’s take a look at the qualifications, judgement, and experience of Obama, who is running for President. Obama had 25 years to fulfill the potential he displayed as a rising start at Harvard Law School … and, how did he live up to that potential? … He chose to align himself with anti-American racist, Jeremiah Wright for TWENTY YEARS … along with Ferrahkan, Rezko, Ayers, and others. As a community organizer, he registered thousands of voters in Chicago … then, when he ran for the state legislature, he took away their votes, by disqualifying his opponent (a black woman) on a technicality. As a U.S. Senator, he voted present 160 times … he never called a meeting on the Afghanistan committee he chaired (although he NOW says we must shift all our military from Iraq to Afghanistan). He claimed Foreign Policy experience from a 9 day whirlwind photo op to 6 countries. And, he spent almost half of his tenure neglecting his responsibilities as a U.S. Senator, so he could run for President. Senator McCain served America honorably for 22 years in the military. He proved his love for America, as well as his honor, integrity and character, by refusing early release as a P.O.W., even while being tortured. He served America as a ‘contributing’ U.S. Senator, working across the aisle, for 20 years. If Obama’s Twentyfive year track record shows he lacks judgement, and can’t be trusted, who cares what he says about Health Care and the Economy! What Obama never learned is Character. He simply can’t be trusted … ask Jeremiah Wright, a friend of 20 years, who Obama betrayed for personal ambition … and, you Obama supporters really think he won’t betray you If he gets elected??? If he gets elected, you Obama supporters will be facing a HUGE disillusionment !!!

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  41. John says, ““The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with . . . ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. ”

    Diane says, “those who are swayed by slander (or besotted by bulls–t)” being spewed forth by “Team Maverick” (give me a break) “won’t consider they might be incorrect (or misled) anyway.”

    Sigh. I rest my case.

    By the way, Saturday Night Live has a great “replay” of the VP debate. Go to http://www.nbc.com to see the video clip, with Tina Fey and Queen Latifah.

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  42. ? to b investigating now is “how did this which become a mayor n gov. of any state in the u.s.a.? we;ve all seen she has n problem with lying and making up truth as she goes. what is this business of i’m not talking to the grand jury, really. as far as the kkk runing fr president, he never knew truth n would pass it buy with pregidice if it was passing him the key into heaven; but with the corrupt life hes; lived hes; sure to go to hell with so many of his commrads. and as for oboma he is nothng more than a pupit t have his strings pulled in whatever directions his whte aster wishes, thats why he is not hitting his opponit back hard; they want oboma to win ust not buy much dare not embarrest one f the favorit sons of the confederate us, aka kkk.

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  43. Folks, thanks for keeping things civil. Unfortunately, I just now deleted the comments of two more people who didn’t think the rule to keep things civil on this blog applied to them. So, let me remind anyone who wishes to post here: That rule is enforced. Keep it civil.

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  44. Nice post. It’s not the first time fear has been used to rack in votes, and it certainly won’t be the last. It is the way of humans, sadly. It is fear that is the root of all evil, I believe. For the past 2 months it seems the McCain camp has used fear to drive people away from Obama. By talking about his character, personality, supposed affiliations with activists 40 years ago and spinning his words into something offensive, everything that is unsubstantial and difficult to prove. It is this reason that I believe they have no plan, they have nothing to truly get people on their side. When it comes to policies and general wisdom, Obama and Biden outmatch them, and they know it. So McCain’s camp will try to say words like “maverick” and “terrorists” over and over until (they hope) it sticks in people’s heads and they see it as truth. It is sad that these are the tactics of politics in the 21st century. And it makes me cry thinking of how many ignorant people will follow these lies without checking the facts. Hopefully the internet is the solution.

    Obama/Biden 08

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  45. Hi Rick! Welcome to the blog! Thank you for such a thoughtful and well written post!

    I think we need better education in this country if we are going to be better citizens. That’s to say, the problem of ignorance starts years before any one election. It begins with the school system.

    I’ve noticed for instance that quite a few otherwise reasonably intelligent people simply do not know how to fairly evaluate facts and arguments. That’s something schools need to get better at teaching.

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  46. Americans,
    Let’s not be fooled. The McCain camp has already said that if they can’t win on substance they will win on smears. They hope to divide Americans with insignificant issues. America is not stupid and the vetting process has already been concluded for both of these candidates. There is nothing in their background that is a character issue. The truth is McCain’s plans are the same as Bush’s. By the way shame on Palin for saying she’s a different kind of politician. By smearing Obama it makes her just like any regular politician. They’ll say and do anything to win. If they really put America first they’d try to change their economic plans, try to change their message. Make us believe they are not like Bush. But so far they are. McCain wants to give tax cuts to who? The rich corporations. Corps making about 2.87 million will get a tax cut of $269,364. What do the middle income people get? Someone making up to $18,981 will get $19 dollars more. Someone making up to $66,354 will get $319 dollars more. This won’t work. It’s time to help the middle income people. The ones that make the economy go round. Who borrows money, who pays interest on loans? The rich? Of course not. Without the middle class the rich can’t survive. If we don’t have money we can’t buy things, we can’t pay our mortgage or our car loans. Bush/McCain economics won’t work. Think people. Who really wants to fix America. Do you think Obama likes to say he’ll raise taxes on the rich? Of course not. But that is what needs to happen so that the economy can get back to normal. Obama’s plan gives $1042 to people making up to $66354. Plus he’s going to help us with healthcare. He taxes corps making above $2.87 million $701,885. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html
    This is where he will get the money to pay for healthcare. He’s also going to get rid of programs that don’t work and save money in Washington. The Republicans say raising taxes will decrease investment. Tell me who will want to invest in the stock market when the stock prices are falling. Do you think the tax cuts to the rich are going to go to the stock market? Do you think stocks will go up if middle class people don’t have money to buy products or services or take out/pay for loans, credit cards, mortgages etc. The middle class can’t spend because we are losing our jobs, gas prices are through the roof, prices of groceries are high and the list goes on. People are losing jobs because the businesses are failing. And they are failing because people can’t afford their products/services. The price of gas has cost America so much. It costs more money to ship products and so forth. But Bush does nothing. And McCain will do the same. The one thriving business in America is oil. (I wonder why.) Learn about the issues and then make your decision. Don’t be diverted.

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  47. Hi JJ! Welcome to the blog. Nice post, but I’m curious what you think about Palin’s claim there is an intimate Obama/Ayers connection? That happens to be the topic of this post.

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  48. I feel Imust point out the hypocrisy evident when the word terrorist is spit into the conversation. I decry violence altogether and do not excuse the setting of firebombs. It is well to remember however, Ayers et al were protesting the extreme violence and utter cruelty being waged against the Vietnamese, where children and their homes were bombed and burned routinely.
    Perhaps we should all respond to the violence and crulety perpetrated by our terrible leaders with as much vehemence as we abhor so called terrorists. Since when have Americans decided Viet Nam was a such good idea after all?

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  49. Paul,
    As I mentioned in my post these candidates have already been vetted. If there was anything in their past that would keep them from becoming president it would have already been known. Do I think that Obama’s connection to Ayers has anything to do with whether Obama has an interest in “terrorism”? No. What are these politicians supposed to do. Vett any and all acquaintances back to the day they were born? This is ridiculous. I know that this is the topic of this post but we all know that we wouldn’t even be talking about this if McCain was not trailing as far behind as he is. Why was this not so important two weeks ago or four weeks ago. Why did McCain’s camp not bring this up during the RNC when millions of people tuned in? What was more important then, their campaign or the country? If this is so real then why is Homeland Security not involved or the FBI or CIA? But more importantly why are we not talking about Bush? This is his administration and this country is falling apart. Where is he. Ain’t he glad we’re talking about Obama and Ayers and even McCain and his houses and not about him. Why are we acting like this country is running on autopilot. I get so tired of politicians changing the subject for their own political purposes. They do it on the news all the time. For example, reporter–“Mr. McCain what is your solution to solving the economic problems in America?” McCain–“Well I’ll tell you what I’m not going to do. I’m not going to do what Obama wants to do.” Then what are you going to do Mr. McCain? We know what Obama’s going to do but what about you. Got nothing else but cut taxes. I don’t even know how he’s going to do that. Bottom line is that it is irresponsible for any politician, party, news team etc., to try to paint someone as a terrorist of some sort when there is no real evidence. Their irresponsibility can lead many to believe it’s the truth and there are some out there that would commit to even murder a person based on this information. Do you think people are calling Obama a terrorist or a muslim because of research and truth? No they hear these words from the news and politicians. Do politicians and news reporters have no standards? I am so ashamed of our politicians and the media sometimes and their outpouring of half-truths they call news. And I’m even more ashamed that some Americans would actually believe them so easily. I guess it is a lot easier to believe the juicy stuff. Remember gossip in High School back when we were to young to know better?

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  50. @ Chrysalis: I only wish we lived in a world with fewer double-standards. While nothing justifies Ayer’s behavior, I believe you are correct in pointing out that nothing justifies a war of aggression either.

    @ JJ: Methinks you make some very good points. I myself am especially concerned that this attack on Obama is designed to distract us (the electorate) from the issues of importance to us. It’s a pity that so many people will indeed be distracted.

    @ Meleah: I agree, my friend. I think a side by side comparison of Palin’s words with her alleged source (The NYT) makes the conclusion she’s lying inescapable.

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  51. Barack Obama should be exceptionally proud that he began his political career within 3 blocks of his own home. He was a community organizer, concerned with poverty and early childhood education. This is what brought him close to the said, “terrorists”.

    It is notable that Jesus Christ also began his early ministry among the less savory of society, prostitutes, heathens, publicans, lepers, etc.

    God bless Obama for his courage to work with this neighbors in a turbulent and diverse district.

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  52. Waaaaaaaaay up there somebody said “I am amazed that Obama or Biden are not telling the world about McCain and Keating!! ”

    Guess again! Obama’s strategy, according to Bloomberg, is “we won’t throw the first punch, but we’ll throw the last”

    His 13 minute documentary on McCain’s part in the Keating 5 scandal is one of the top videos on Youtube. http://www.keatingeconomics.com/

    This was almost certainly prepared in advance – it has stock footage, documentary evidence, witness commentary and numerous lengthy shots of McCain sitting before a disciplinary committee. The Democrats had to have planned this a long while back and were sitting on it until everybody clearly understood McCain started the mudslinging.

    Palin’s comment was not only a lie, but a terrible tactical error. If they’d stuck with anonymous, third party push polls and spam to spread their smears, Obama could not have released this at all. not if he wanted to keep the moral high ground, anyway.

    The anonymous spammer / nutcase blogger / viral smear campaign gave them plausible deniability for the swiftboating and (from the comments above) was clearly working on some people. Having the VP candidate deliver the message in essence takes ownership of the smear campaign and all its lies and inaccuracies – brings the accusations to light so they can be debunked (again) and McCain and Palin’s well-documented corruption issues and ties to corporate lobbyists can be openly discussed.

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  53. John McCain and Sarah Palin claim that Barack Obama “pals around” with Bill Ayers, who belonged to “The Weather Underground” 39 YEARS AGO, when Obama was 8. OBAMA WAS NEVER A MEMBER OF THE GROUP. Ayers was never convicted of a terrorist attack. Still, Obama condemned Ayers’ past associations.
    And if Ayers is so dangerous, why is he walking around free, educating our youth and working for charities? The associations between Ayers and Obama include being on the same charity boards, and living in the same neighborhood. Are the people who lived near , and worked, with Jeffrey Dahmer guilty of being serial killers? Of course not. That association is ridiculous.
    McCain, on the other hand, “pals around” with G.Gordon Liddy. McCain appeared on Liddy’s radio show and wished him “continued success and adherence to the principles that keep our nation great”. Which principles? Committing the Watergate break-in? Spending 4 years in jail? Planning to: kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in? Kill Jack Anderson? Kill Howard Hunt? Firebomb the Brookings Institute? Kidnap “leftists” during the ’72 RNC Convention? Instructing his radio audience to shoot ATF agents in the ’90s? Liddy has no remorse for his actions. McCain admires Liddy. He went to a fundraiser at Liddy’s house in ’98. Liddy contributes to McCain’s campaigns, including this one. This is the kind of guy McCain “pals around “with. Is this guilt by association too, McLame and Caribou Barbie?

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