7 thoughts on “A Late Night Thought on Morals

  1. I have no clear idea what the much-abused word “morals” actually meant. I don’t mean what a dictionary says, but in practice.

    Here’s my definition: hurting people is immoral.

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  2. I think we have it all backward. Good and bad are not some duel between the forces of light and darkness. They are the binary code of biological calculation. Even the most basic life forms distinguish between beneficial and detrimental. Between light and dark are not just shades of grey, but all the colors of the spectrum.
    This view developed from an insight of many years ago that the absolute lacks any definition or distinction, so a spiritual absolute would be the raw essence of being from which we rise, not an ideal from which we fell. Thus life bootstraps itself upward and forward by creating and consuming itself.
    Obviously this wouldn’t be a popular view among those who seek ideals, but it explains why the world is the way it is.

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  3. Mmm, I’m not a big fan of using religion as the foundation for a person’s morals. I think that a set of morals should be able to stand on its own, and that’s hard to do when your motives lie in someone or something outside yourself.

    An example: what would our morals be like if we took away God? If we took away heaven and hell? It seems to be that the driving force for being a Christian is the incentive of making it into heaven. Without that incentive, many people wouldn’t see a reason to be a Christian anymore. I’m skeptical that a majority of people would continue to be benevolent if there wasn’t even the promise of heaven or of pleasing God.

    I’m just saying we should want to do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing (not to get into Heaven) and love God for the sake of loving God. I might even venture further to say that those who say the gods invented morality have a lower moral integrity, foundation-wise.

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  4. “I’m not a big fan of using religion as the foundation for a person’s morals.”

    Or rather than using one religion, using *all* of them. And even then, you have to be careful, as most religions have among their doctrines some variation on the concept, “We’re right, therefore everybody else is wrong.”

    “An example: what would our morals be like if we took away God? If we took away heaven and hell? It seems to be that the driving force for being a Christian is the incentive of making it into heaven. Without that incentive, many people wouldn’t see a reason to be a Christian anymore.”

    Hammer… nail… contact.

    Several times, I’ve proposed to Christians the idea, “Why do you do as Jesus said? Because he was (in your belief) a deity; or because he was simply a person who happened to be right? And which scenario is the more righteous?” I say, in the former scenario, one is just sucking up to an authority figure; the latter scenario would be more powerful.

    “I’m just saying we should want to do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing (not to get into Heaven) and love God for the sake of loving God.”

    I concur.

    – M. \”/

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  5. @ Meowlin “I say, in the former scenario, one is just sucking up to an authority figure; the latter scenario would be more powerful.”

    Have you ever heard of Perry stages? I’d say the first one would be around Perry 2.

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