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All the Young Women

SUMMARY: I take a look at the women I met some years ago in Colorado Springs, and then draw a few conclusions about the challenges they faced at that time in their lives.

(About a 8 minute read)

People are often more predictable than life itself.  I can often predict, with surprising accuracy, what a long-term friend will do in almost any situation, but my life has taught me that it can be considerably more difficult to predict where I will be in a year or two.

I certainly did not expect when I came to Colorado that I would soon know — at least casually — about 200 young men and women twenty years younger than me, nor that about two dozen of them would befriend me.

Yet that’s what happened — largely as a direct consequence of my choosing to frequent a coffee shop that both served the cheapest cup in town and was the hang out of hundreds of local high school students.  Since it was also the oldest and most established coffee shop in town, it was also the hang out of everyone else — from the mayor and some city council members to several homeless people.

But it was the young men and women in their teens and early twenties who most actively befriended me, invited me to parties, sleep-overs, road trips, and just about everything else they could think of.

When I eventually asked a few of them why they had taken such an interest in me, I was told by almost all of them that it was because I didn’t judge them.

I suppose it might have been a bit more than that too.  It seemed to me that at least some of them were using me to ease themselves into the adult world.  That is, they were doing what I myself did when I was their age.  Find an adult, become friends, and then learn a thing or two about how to think and act like an adult from them.

Whatever the case, my new friends were about equally divided between men and women.  Since reaching my 30s some years before, I had not been very interested in young people.  But now I pretty much had no choice but to become interested.  After awhile, the people who I became most interested in were the young women.

I think that was largely for two reasons.  First, most of the ones who actually befriended me were several times more attractive — both physically and otherwise — than any of my peers had been during my high school years.  I didn’t pursue any of them sexually, but I was quite flattered by their deferential attention and friendship.

The second reason was more intellectual.  Until I came to know the women of the coffee shop, I had almost no idea what young women of that time went through.  It fascinated me how things had seemed to change so much in just the twenty years since I’d been in high school.

For one thing, far more of them were fatherless than had been the case in my age.  Then again, they seemed to be under much greater pressure to conform to popular notions both of what was beautiful, and of what was sexually attractive.  I seldom got asked for advice in dealing directly with those issues, but I often got asked advice about nearly every closely related issue you can imagine.

For instance, no one asked me, “What do I do to make myself sexually attractive?”, but Jackie once asked me nearly the same thing, “What must I do to please the boys? I will become whatever it takes to do that.  Just please tell me what that is.”


I told her she should be true to herself.  It was one of the first times in my life I had offered anyone specifically that advice.  But after Jackie, I would find myself repeating it often.  “Vanessa, unless you are true to yourself, the boys will not know you, and they will love you for something you are not.  Be true to yourself.  Some will not want you, but those who will, will want the real you.  Their love will be true.”

I found the advice didn’t always sink in.  But in Jackie’s case it did — eventually.  She stopped me on the street one day a year to the month that I had first offered her my advice in order to thank me for it saying, “It took me forever to understand what you were saying, but I got to thinking about it last month, and it finally came to me.”

I still think it’s good advice.  Not every young person is going to take it, but I believe every young person should be made aware of it as at least an option.  So much in life depends on personal authenticity.


If nothing else, hanging out with so many young women gave me a firm appreciation for good fathers.  I once read a rather naive writer assert that fathers were unnecessary to women’s upbringing, that women could take them or leave them, but that notion was heavily contradicted by all that I myself saw.

For instance, one of the better signs that a young woman was unlikely to get into an abusive relationship with a man — and to get out soon, if she still happened to get into one — was a good relationship with her father.

Sarah, for instance, had a great relationship with her father.  At 17, she very briefly got into a bad relationship with a jerk a few years older than her.  It lasted about a month or less.  Sarah quickly realized what he was and had the confidence to exit the relationship.  She didn’t say much about him afterwards, but I did manage to gather he had not yet really abused her.  Instead, she’d detected the early warning signs and had recognized their significance.

Near as I was able to figure out, a young girl’s first love is for her mother and father.  While the mother’s love is every bit as key to her future as her father’s love, her father through his example, creates her expectations of how she should be properly treated. If and when someone doesn’t treat her how he’s taught her to be treated, she recognizes she deserves better.

A second thing I noticed about the healthiest young women is that they had some sort of enthusiasm — or even in a some cases, a genuine passion — for something that at least rivaled their natural enthusiasm for boys.  I’ve never seen much mention of the importance of this in what I’ve read about young women, but to me, it seemed pretty important.

Even if it was just an enthusiasm for horse riding, it tended to keep the women from becoming obsessed with a young man.  Which was important, because women who become obsessed tend to become victims.  But the young women with a solid interest in something besides boys overall seemed less susceptible to obsession than those without.


Quite a few of the young women went through a usually brief bi-curious phase.  That is, they typically dated for a while another young woman.  There seemed to be no stigma attached to it, and most that I knew to be bi-curious were completely open about it.

Except for the genuinely bisexual women, these bi-curious phases typically ended soon after the woman’s break up with her first and only girlfriend, although one or two went a bit longer than that.

The women themselves almost invariably described their bi-curiosity as “bisexuality”.  They usually weren’t firm about it, however.  More along the lines of, “I think I might be bisexual because I’ve felt attraction to other women.”  The real bisexuals, on the other hand, usually had no doubt they were bisexual.

I was never able to see any harm coming from such things.  In fact, I got the sense they were part of many a young woman’s learning curve regarding how to handle both sex and relationships.


Out of the two dozen or so young women I was to one degree or another genuine friends with, about a half dozen offered themselves to me despite I was twice their age, usually repeatedly.  In every case, I declined the offer, but almost always in a way that we remained friends.  Still, I found the fact of it fascinating.

Most times, the young women had a poor or non-existent relationship with her father.  Many people would say she had “daddy issues”, but I don’t like the term mainly because I heard it used to imply the woman is messed up.  That has not been my overall experience

Of the half dozen who offered themselves to me, all but one or two of them were what I thought of as fairly well balanced, mentally and emotionally healthy people, given their ages.  Although they tended to be fatherless, they were not the young women most affected by it.  For some reason, those almost never hit on me.

With perhaps two exceptions, the women’s interest in an older man or men did not exclude them from being interested in young men their own age.  I also got the sense that they were largely interested in me as a source of validation of them, although there was one young woman whose interest seemed mostly sexual.

I suspect she was curious about whether sex with an older man would be any different and more fulfilling than sex with someone her own age — because she told me the men her own age were not satisfying her.


Although a few of the fatherless women seemed indistinguishable from the women with fathers, most did not.  That is, they were noticeably different.  For one thing, they tended to become obsessed with the young men, unless they had some strong hobby or enthusiasm.

For another thing, they seemed to me excessively deferential to the young men.  They didn’t always know where their boundaries were, nor how and when to enforce them.  They were often uncertain of themselves and tended to have low self-esteem.  They also seemed at high risk of unwanted pregnancy.

As you might imagine, these women often had the hardest time being true to themselves.  In most cases, they struck me as not really knowing that much about themselves compared to the other young women.  That was not for lack of trying.  Almost every one of them almost religiously kept a personal journal.

These were the young women it was often most heartbreaking to know, because they tended to get into abusive relationships that they found difficult to leave.  Such relationships often resulted in one or two children, and consequently, the end of the woman’s dreams and ambitions for a better life than her mother’s.

Although these young women weren’t the type to hit on me, at least two of them to my recollection tried to set me up with their single mothers.  I’ve wondered if they were not trying to get a step-dad.


I’ve left out some observations here because this has become a very long post.  In general, the topics I’ve covered were fairly common things experienced by the women.

Questions?  Comments?

6 thoughts on “All the Young Women”

  1. This is fascinating and I’m glad you wrote it. See, I told you it had to be done.

    I have always believed that a child brought up by a single parent loses something inside of them. In most cases no one is to blame by being a single parent. Things happen. That’s all there is to it.

    Your post proves that something is missing in the child as they grow. A certain confidence. A need. A fear. Something that otherwise would be present had the family stayed intact.

    For a single parent the best thing to do is to be there. Listen and pick up the pieces when needed. The kids that you mentioned will go through their bad spells but hopefully escape with minimal scars.

    That’s pretty much life in a nutshell.

    Excellent write up. Happy you did this.


    1. Thank you for being the inspiration to have written this, Bryan. I’m glad you liked it.

      I’ve seen some pretty healthy kids brought up by single parents, but I agree it can be harder on them. It certainly helps to have two good parents even though that’s not always an option.


  2. One of the things I noticed you didn’t really talk about was your observation of young women with issues with solely the mother, or both parents. Was that just uncommon? This is surprisingly accurate, however. Although I cannot say whether or not the attraction to older men is common, or even why. The bi curious section, I’ll just say is scary accurate, and I’m surprised that’s something you’ve observed. I liked seeing your take on this, and it’s much kinder than what most people would have to say about it.


    1. Actually, a number of young women had issues with their mothers — or issues with both their mothers and their fathers. But my post was getting way too long, and I had to leave out a few of my observations. If I could have, I would have brought it up because it’s pretty important. Are such issues and how the women dealt with them of special interest to you?

      The older man thing fascinated me — for the reasons I gave in the post. But one thing I didn’t make clear in the post was that the young women who were attracted to older men seemed to fall into two categories. The ones who were attracted to me seemed (at least to me) to be healthy, functional people. But some of my friends (i.e. young women) who were also attracted to older men weren’t so functional. Suzanne, for instance, was pretty messed up by her bipolar disorder, which she hadn’t yet learned to manage. Suzanne though, was only platonically attracted to me.

      As for how common it was, it was much more common that I thought likely at first, but still not all that common. I was on speaking terms with about 100 young women. Of those, about a half dozen expressed a sexual attraction to me. That’s only 6%.

      The bi-curious phase so many young women went through struck me as something that didn’t much happen back in my own day. At least, if it did, no one was open about it. I have heard from one older woman, however, that it was actually very common in her and my day. It’s just that it wasn’t spoken of publicly. So there’s that.

      Thank you so much for your feedback, Marysa. It’s a big help!

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      1. I don’t think the attraction to older men really has any driving factors based on what I’m interpreting. But yes, I am interested in how they dealt with such issues. I’m wondering if there’s any consistency to it. I’m curious as to anything else you may have observed. You seem very perceptive and understand a lot more than most.


      2. Thank you for your kind words, Marysa. I will put some thought into your question to see what further observations I can recall. It’s been quite a few years, so wish me luck.


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